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Berkeley, George

"Three Dialogues Between Hylas And Philonous"

And, after all, this very point which you are now
resolved to maintain, without any reason, is in effect what you
have more than once during this discourse seen good reason to
give up. But, to pass over all this; if I understand you rightly,
you say our ideas do not exist without the mind, but that they
are copies, images, or representations, of certain originals that
do?
. You take me right.
. They are then like external things?
. They are.
. Have those things a stable and permanent nature,
independent of our senses; or are they in a perpetual change,
upon our producing any motions in our bodies -- suspending,
exerting, or altering, our faculties or organs of sense?
. Real things, it is plain, have a fixed and real
nature, which remains the same notwithstanding any change in our
senses, or in the posture and motion of our bodies; which indeed
may affect the ideas in our minds, but it were absurd to think
they had the same effect on things existing without the mind.


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